The Enid Blyton Society

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 16:41**

A tad complicated? I can't even see how to take part... or haven't we been told that yet?

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 16:46**

The Sea By Moonlight wrote:GAMES

Group A
1. Five Go Down to the Sea (H) vs Five Go to Mystery Moor (A)
2. Five Go Down to the Sea vs Five Get into a Fix
3. Five Go Down to the Sea vs Five Go Off to Camp
4. Five Go Down to the Sea vs Five Go to Demon's Rocks
5. Five Go Down to the Sea vs Five Fall into Adventure
6. Five Go to Mystery Moor vs Five Get into a Fix
7. Five Go to Mystery Moor vs Five Go Off to Camp
8. Five Go to Mystery Moor vs Five Go to Demon's Rocks
9. Five Go to Mystery Moor vs Five Fall into Adventure
10. Five Get into a Fix vs Five Go Off to Camp
11. Five Get into a Fix vs Five Go to Demon's Rocks
12. Five Get into a Fix vs Five Fall into Adventure
13. Five Go Off to Camp vs Five Go to Demon's Rocks
14. Five Go Off to Camp vs Five Fall into Adventure
15. Five Go to Demon's Rocks vs Five Fall into Adventure

Group B
16. Five Go to Smuggler's Top vs Five on a Treasure Island
17. Five Go to Smuggler's Top vs Five Go Off in a Caravan
18. Five Go to Smuggler's Top vs Five on a Secret Trail
19. Five Go to Smuggler's Top vs Five Have a Mystery to Solve
20. Five on a Treasure Island vs Five Go Off in a Caravan
21. Five on a Treasure Island vs Five on a Secret Trail
22. Five on a Treasure Island vs Five Have a Mystery to Solve
23. Five Go Off in a Caravan vs Five on a Secret Trail
24. Five Go Off in a Caravan vs Five Have a Mystery to Solve
25. Five on a Secret Trail vs Five Have a Mystery to Solve

Group C
26. Five Go to Billycock Hill vs Five on a Hike Together
27. Five Go to Billycock Hill vs Five on Kirrin Island Again
28. Five Go to Billycock Hill vs Five on Finniston Farm
29. Five Go to Billycock Hill vs Five Have Plenty of Fun
30. Five on a Hike Together vs Five on Kirrin Island Again
31. Five on a Hike Together vs Five on Finniston Farm
32. Five on a Hike Together vs Five Have Plenty of Fun
33. Five on Kirrin Island Again vs Five on Finniston Farm
34. Five on Kirrin Island Again vs Five Have Plenty of Fun
35. Five on Finniston Farm vs Five Have Plenty of Fun

Group D
36. Five Go Adventuring Again vs Five Run Away Together
37. Five Go Adventuring Again vs Five Are Together Again
38. Five Go Adventuring Again vs Five Have a Wonderful Time
39. Five Go Adventuring Again vs Five Get into Trouble
40. Five Run Away Together vs Five Are Together Again
41. Five Run Away Together vs Five Have a Wonderful Time
42. Five Run Away Together vs Five Get into Trouble
43. Five Are Together Again vs Five Have a Wonderful Time
44. Five Are Together Again vs Five Get into Trouble
45. Five Have a Wonderful Time vs Five Get into Trouble

Remember group games close at midnight next Thursday!

Let the games commence!!

If I've understood correctly, for the first round (which ends at midnight on Thursday) we have to pick our favourites - Home (H) or Away (A) - for all 45 games.

Edit: To give an example, my choices for Group A would be:

1. A
2. A
3. A
4. A
5. A
6. H
7. A
8. H
9. A
10. A
11. H
12. A
13. H
14. A
15. A

I won't give my choices for Groups B, C and D at the moment in case I've misunderstood, or in case The Sea By Moonlight decides to alter anything based on suggestions made by others.

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 16:57**

I am beginning to have a glimmer of understanding but it seems ever so long-winded.

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 17:33**

I'm still not sure. I mean, presumably we don't list the title of the book, just the number and 'A' or 'H'?

So we never know which books are playing which book?

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 20:20**

Apologies for the lack of clarity. Perhaps it is rather complex to explain in a brief forum message for those not familiar with either football tournaments or Richard Osman's recent topical world cups.

Anita has it spot on; You pick your favourite book from each of the 45 group games I've listed. If you prefer the first book, state 'H'. If you prefer the second book, state 'A'.

Rob, H or A was suggested as a time saving device. I felt it could be long winded inputting a book title 45 times. We know which book is playing which because of the list in post #2. If it's easier then type the book name. As long as I know which book you're voting for in each game.

Using game 1 as an example:

1. Five got down to the sea vs Five go to Mystery Moor

Contrary to Anita, I prefer Five go down to the sea, so I'd state as follows:

1. H

To get the overall result, I will tally the votes for FGDTTS (H) against FGTMM (A). The book with the most votes wins the match and gets 3 points towards their group campaign.

Let's assume 10 forum members take part with 6 voting for FGDTTS and 4 for FGTMM. Therefore FGDTTS wins 6-4 and gets 3 points in the group table. FGTMM loses and gets 0. So after the first game FGDTTS would be top of the table with 3 points and FGTMM would be bottom with 0 points.

Once all games within that group (15 in group A) have played out, the two teams with the most points progress to the quarter finals (which will be drawn after the group phase has been completed).

As games are decided by pooling votes cast across the forum, there is no guarantee that your favourite book will be the eventual winner! So those saying Treasure Island will win for them no mater what, that's fine. But that won't necessarily reflect the view of the forum. Yes, I'm sure it'd be amongst the favourites for the title, but I'd guess potential games against Summgler's Top and Hike would be humdingers!!

It would be easier/better with a poll for each game, but creating 45 polls would be excessive. So please just respond to this thread as Anita has with your choices. I will then tally the votes next Thursday.

The reason for a group format as opposed to a simple knockout format is the odd number of books.

I know it's a bit long winded, but it won't take long and is a bit of fun .... in the end

Let me know if this has cleared anything up and whether or not your all game. No dramas if not, I appreciate it might not be something which garners sufficient interest, but I had some spare time and thought I'd float the idea

Cheers!

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 20:49**

Thanks, The Sea By Moonlight. Here are my choices:

Group A
1. A
2. A
3. A
4. A
5. A
6. H
7. A
8. H
9. A
10. A
11. H
12. A
13. H
14. A
15. A

Group B
16. H
17. H
18. H
19. H
20. A
21. H
22. H
23. H
24. H
25. H

Group C
26. A
27. A
28. H
29. A
30. H
31. H
32. H
33. H
34. H
35. A

Group D
36. A
37. H
38. A
39. A
40. H
41. H
42. H
43. A
44. A
45. A

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 21:03**

OK, I think I get it now

Should be easy for me as I have already painstakingly worked out my definitive ranking of 1-21 and written about it in great length, though you will have to wait until I'm on maternity leave before they're published.

Group A
1. H
2. H
3. H
4. H
5. H
6. A
7. A
8. A
9. A
10. H
11. A
12. H
13. A
14. A
15. H

Group B
16. H
17. H
18. H
19. H
20. H
21. H
22. H
23. H
24. H
25. H

Group C
26. A
27. A
28. A
29. A
30. H
31. H
32. H
33. A
34. H
35. H

Group D
36. A
37. H
38. H
39. A
40. H
41. H
42. H
43. A
44. A
45. A

My first prediction is that Together Again is going to lose almost every match!

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 21:13**

My choices:

Group A
1. A
2. A
3. A
4. A
5. A
6. H
7. A
8. A
9. A
10. A
11. A
12. A
13. H
14. A
15. A

Group B
16. A
17. H
18. H
19. H
20. H
21. H
22. H
23. H
24. H
25. H

Group C
26. A
27. A
28. H
29. H
30. H
31. H
32. H
33. H
34. H
35. A

Group D
36. H
37. H
38. H
39. A
40. H
41. H
42. A
43. A
44. A
45. A

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 21:22**

Can you vote for a draw?

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 21:23**

Right - I think I got it!

Group A

1. A
2. A
3. A
4. H
5. H
6. H
7. H
8. H
9. H
10. A
11. H
12. H
13. H
14. H
15. A

Group B

16. H
17. A
18. H
19. H
20. A
21. H
22. H
23. H
24. H
25. A

Group C

26. A
27. H
28. H
29. A
30. H
31. H
32. H
33. H
34. H
35. H

Group D

36. A
37. H
38. A
39. A
40. H
41. A
42. A
43. A
44. A
45. A

Posted: **15 Apr 2017, 23:20**

Fiona1986 wrote:Can you vote for a draw?

Yes. It’s not too explicit, but there is a score assigned to it. I made use of it because there are still some books I find it hard to choose between.

The Sea by Moonlight wrote:3 points are awarded for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a loss.

Posted: **16 Apr 2017, 11:46**

I'll take your word for it! No matter how many times I read the rules I can't figure out if it means a team that wins a game by power of most votes gets 3 points, or if it gets 3 points for every individual who chose it to win.

Posted: **16 Apr 2017, 11:58**

I interpreted it as the latter - each title voted as winning by each individual will get 3 points. A vote for a draw will only get 1 point.

Posted: **16 Apr 2017, 12:06**

Well, having consulted my football-interested fiance who knows a bit about these 'league' things he informs me that it usually works with 3 points going to the overall winner of a game based on vote. (Otherwise there's a lot of maths and adding up if each individual vote gets 0,1 or 3 points)

I suppose we shall just have to wait and see!

Posted: **16 Apr 2017, 14:01**

You can tell I'm not into football at all!!!

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