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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Soenke Rahn » 15 Mar 2017, 03:33

I suppose Quentins works with mathematical formulas and numbers must be something realy mysterious with complex questions so that he worked with other scientis again and again. Maybe the Cold fusion ;-) Maybe we will listen of it, if it will work one time and he will get the Nobel Prize so that he will be more famous than the five kids ;-)
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Daisy » 15 Mar 2017, 09:50

That's a great idea Soenke! I can just imagine Aunt Fanny trying to get him to the presentation ceremony on time and he would be wondering what all the fuss was about! :lol:
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Soenke Rahn » 15 Mar 2017, 20:32

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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby KEVP » 15 Mar 2017, 22:57

Remember that the first book--"Five on a Treasure Island" was published in 1942. At that time, in the real world, the Second World War was going on. And the atomic bomb had not been invented.

And as I have been saying, there really is no indication in the Famous Five novels that the 2nd World War is taking place, or has taken place.

This is what I am speculating about.

I am not familiar with the 1957 film, but in the original book Uncle Quentin doesn't construct a ship.
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Soenke Rahn » 15 Mar 2017, 23:44

Ohhh yes, have forgotten that the first one was published in 1942. But on the other hand there exist in the Adventure Series these relations. http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/adventure-series.php But the Adventure series seems for me for older kids. ;-) More global views etc. in it. ;-)
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby KEVP » 16 Mar 2017, 21:13

My theory about the Famous Five is at the moment limited to the Famous Five. That is, they must live in a different universe from the Adventure Series. Thus, the Famous Five live in a universe where World War 2 never happened, but the kids of the Adventure Series live in a universe more similar to ours, where World War 2 DID happen.

(Hey folks, I am just playing a game here with these books. Don't take this too seriously.)
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Rob Houghton » 16 Mar 2017, 21:51

Yes...I sort of agree -- although I would probably reverse it, and say that the Adventure books, The Adventurous Four, Smuggler Ben and The Children of Kidillin are the books that are unusual - because they acknowledge World War 2 while pretty much every other Enid Blyton book (including The Famous Five, Find Outers, School Stories, Family stories etc) is set in a strange parallel universe where the war isn't ever mentioned.
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby pete9012S » 16 Mar 2017, 22:45

Leaving the war to one side for a moment, it suddenly seemed a bit sad to me that Quentin Kirrin as a noble scientist was working indefatigably to achieve great things for humanity and the human race in the way of extremely low cost/free power and energy for the whole of mankind amongst other ideas...

However,I can't recall any part of the books from 1942 - 1963 that actually list or discuss these achievements becoming a reality for the everyday man in the street.

It seems acknowledged by all that he is a very clever man with an incredible scientific mind,but what did he actually accomplish? Did he ever receive any official accreditation from his peers or the government or his King/Queen ?

He was famous enough for his daughter to be kidnapped,so maybe nefarious shady people in the 'scientific underworld' were desperate to get hold of his work/blueprints/formulae etc etc...

I seem to remember from the books that the children were supposed never to discuss Quentin's work with strangers or unknowns.
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby KEVP » 17 Mar 2017, 23:43

This is the problem that TV Tropes calls "Reed Richards is useless".

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... sIsUseless
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Soenke Rahn » 18 Mar 2017, 00:42

@Pete @KEVP Hehe :D
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby pete9012S » 18 Mar 2017, 15:25

Back in the very first adventure we learn a bit about Quentin's work schedule:

He thought it was very unfair of his uncle to take the box like that. "Listen— I'm not going to stand this. We'll get hold of that box somehow and look into it. I'm sure your father won't bother himself with it, George— he'll start writing his book again and forget all about it. I'll wait my chance and slip into his study and get it, even if it means a spanking if I'm discovered!"
"Good!" said George. "We'll all keep a watch and see if Father goes out."


So Quentin seems to be on the process of writing a book.


So they took it in turns to keep watch, but most annoyingly their Uncle Quentin remained in his study all the morning....


"Doesn't your father ever go out?" he said to George, when it was her turn to keep watch. "I don't think he leads a very healthy life."
"Scientists never do," said George, as if she knew all about them. "But I tell you what— he may go to sleep this afternoon! He sometimes does!"


He stole to the windows and looked in. One was a little way open and Julian opened it a little more. He saw his uncle lying back in a comfortable arm-chair, his mouth a little open, his eyes closed, fast asleep! Every time he took a breath, he snored.
"Well, he really does look sound asleep," thought the boy. "And there's the box, just behind him, on that table. I'll risk it. I bet I'll get an awful spanking if I'm caught, but I can't help that!"


At last Julian gets his chance and creeps into Uncle Quentin's study...

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It's all work and no play for these hard working scientist types.Eileen Soper captures this dramatic moment beautifully...

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As does the inimitable Goddess Of Line Drawing Betty Maxey.
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Rob Houghton » 18 Mar 2017, 15:37

I love Betty Maxey's version - although I think Enid got it wrong slightly - its quite plain that Uncle Quentin was dozing off during the writing of his next Number 1 pop tune...
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Soenke Rahn » 18 Mar 2017, 15:44

@Pete If the second picture would be the real, I would suppose that rock star uncle Quentin is dull, sleepy and tired after his last gig. :D Ok, seems to be clear that uncle quentions scientifical subject is not music, history, the society, economy. Possibly biology, chemistry, physics and math. :-)
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Courtenay » 18 Mar 2017, 17:07

Rob Houghton wrote:I love Betty Maxey's version - although I think Enid got it wrong slightly - its quite plain that Uncle Quentin was dozing off during the writing of his next Number 1 pop tune...


Which was, of course... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqAvFx3NxUM :D :D :wink:
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Re: What is Uncle Quentin Working On?

Postby Stephen » 19 Nov 2017, 06:54

pete9012S wrote:Leaving the war to one side for a moment, it suddenly seemed a bit sad to me that Quentin Kirrin as a noble scientist was working indefatigably to achieve great things for humanity and the human race in the way of extremely low cost/free power and energy for the whole of mankind amongst other ideas...

However,I can't recall any part of the books from 1942 - 1963 that actually list or discuss these achievements becoming a reality for the everyday man in the street.

It seems acknowledged by all that he is a very clever man with an incredible scientific mind,but what did he actually accomplish? Did he ever receive any official accreditation from his peers or the government or his King/Queen ?

He was famous enough for his daughter to be kidnapped,so maybe nefarious shady people in the 'scientific underworld' were desperate to get hold of his work/blueprints/formulae etc etc...

I seem to remember from the books that the children were supposed never to discuss Quentin's work with strangers or unknowns.


I've just read Kirrin Island Again, and this is pretty much what I was thinking. He tells one of the villains at the end that he will be ready to give his gift to the world the following year. So either in the Famous Five universe, Quentin Kirrin invented nuclear power as almost limitless energy (which seems unlikely on a small island). Or else, whatever he was working on doesn't come to fruition, and the story doesn't have such a happy ending after all.
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