It's about halfway down the last page of chapter one... I presume it's the fourth paragraph from the bottom, unless paragraphs have been altered in different versions!Tony Summerfield wrote:I have the book sitting beside me, Pete, so if you can give me chapter and verse I will look it up for you.pete9012S wrote:Oh and it would be interesting to see what the Brockhampton red backed edition says too!
Research Topic: How old were the Famous Five?
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Re: Research Topic: How old were the Famous Five?
Thanks Rob, yes, the Brockhampton books (or at least this one) have been reset, but Julian is still 16.
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Thank you Tony.What year was the Brockhampton book published?
That just leaves the 1968 Knight paperback to check - looks like I'll have to go down to my library in the cellar and dig it out.....
Right:
I have the 1968 first edition and the 1969 edition of the Knight paperback.Julian being sixteen has been removed from both of them.
That just leaves the 1968 Knight paperback to check - looks like I'll have to go down to my library in the cellar and dig it out.....
Right:
I have the 1968 first edition and the 1969 edition of the Knight paperback.Julian being sixteen has been removed from both of them.
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It was first published by Brochampton in 1968, but mine is a 1970 reprint. Obviously the paperbacks and hardbacks had different editors!
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The removal of and changing of text obviously started earlier than I thought.pete9012S wrote:Thank you Tony.What year was the Brockhampton book published?
That just leaves the 1968 Knight paperback to check - looks like I'll have to go down to my library in the cellar and dig it out.....
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I have the 1968 first edition and the 1969 edition of the Knight paperback.Julian being sixteen has been removed from both of them.
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There must have been some small changes as early as the 1950s, I'm sure, as editions of the Adventure series that were published after 1952 had Kiki's "God save the King" changed to "God save the Queen". Really, it makes sense to remove the reference to Julian being 16, since the Five's agelessness is thus preserved!
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I did the same when I was in my twenties and finally owned all the FF books.Katharine wrote:I do remember once sitting down and working out how old they all were - I think I was just bored and it was something to do. I wouldn't say it bothered me, as I still read and enjoyed the books, but it probably niggled me for a little while, as I like things to be consistent.
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Rob, actually British children were lucky: in the old red hardcovers EB mentions which adventure of the FF it is. In the German translations there never was any mention of it. The entire EB introduction in each FF sequel is missing.Rob Houghton wrote:It's really only since reading articles in the Journal etc that I even realised that the Famous Five, Find Outers, Secret Seven etc had adventures that carried through the years in a chronological order. Reading them as a child I never discovered this and thought they were just miscellaneous adventures set at various times of the year. I never read them in order as a child and so for all I knew five or six adventures could have taken place in one year.
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Yes - even the paperbacks today are still numbered in the same chronological order - but I never took much notice of that as a kid. Mind you, I only read two Famous Five annuals when I was young, and none of the real Famous Five novels.
I did read a lot of Secret Seven and Find Outers and others, and as I say, I just presumed the Find Outers had maybe seven or eight mysteries to solve in one year. I was used to things like 'Scooby Doo' where they solved a mystery every week, so the thought of the mysteries taking place over a number of years never occurred to me. As far as I was concerned they all could have happened within just a few months.
I did read a lot of Secret Seven and Find Outers and others, and as I say, I just presumed the Find Outers had maybe seven or eight mysteries to solve in one year. I was used to things like 'Scooby Doo' where they solved a mystery every week, so the thought of the mysteries taking place over a number of years never occurred to me. As far as I was concerned they all could have happened within just a few months.
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hearts mad delight,
Sing on, sing on, and when the sun is gone
I'll warm me with your echoes
through the night.'
(E. Blyton, Sunday Times, 1951)
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